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  No1 No2 and team orders

Posted by: LotusLover
02-09-2018, 04:31 PM
Forum: F1 General Discussion Board
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I thought I would open a topic that has been discussed many times but put it here rather than clog individual race threads.

So my opinion for No1 and No2 drivers is basically it should not be allowed full stop, my reasons why:

It kills quite a lot of transfer activity, a team should feel comfortable in choosing two premium drivers who can not only pick up best possible points for their team but also so the fans get to see premium racing against another teams best drivers.
No driver should be allowed to dictate to its team conditions on which they will race including being given priority.

ALL drivers should have equal treatment throughout the season. If your no.1 then prove it by beating everyone including your teammate.

It would probably make the season a much more interesting spectacle.

Not sure how to manage this but collisions between teammates should be sorted internally but with transparency.

Team orders can imo detract from fair racing. 

The only order should be no collisions between teammates 

I know it’s not as simple but it drives me nuts when we have two drivers in a equal team not fighting it out.

All views welcome and observed in a fair subjective manner thanks all

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  Tyres

Posted by: PapaofGags
31-08-2018, 02:48 PM
Forum: Technical Talk
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/miche...14/?nrt=54

Michelin has decided against an immediate return to Formula 1 after ruling out applying for the new tyre tender process.

The French tyre company had evaluated a potential return in two years' time, with the FIA having in July opened up the tyre tender to become F1’s official supplier from 2020 to 2023.
But at the time, Michelin expressed two key reservations about what was on offer – saying it did not like the prospect of having to supply 13-inch tyres for the 2020 season only, nor the overall concept of high-degrading tyres.
Following weeks of analysis of what was on offer, and with the FIA’s Friday deadline for applications to be made approaching, Michelin confirmed it was not interested.

A statement from Michelin said that the two concerns it had with the tender were too much for it to overcome - even though it welcomed the long-term move to 18-inch tyres.
“We have received the technical specifications on which the FIA call for tenders has been issued and we have studied it carefully,” said the company.
“Michelin's recommendations for a switch to 18-inch tyres, as in Formula E, have been taken up by the authorities, which we are delighted about.
“However, the demand for the supply of 13-inch tyres for the 2020 season alone, as well as the deterioration of performance as a part of the show, goes against our principles of efficient resource management and respect for the technology of a sustainable tyre.
"Michelin has therefore decided to refrain from any response to this invitation to tender and will continue to follow, in conjunction with its governing bodies, the developments of Formula 1 in the
coming years."

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  Jordan

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn
30-08-2018, 09:21 PM
Forum: Team Gossip
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Wasn't sure where to put this (feel free to move it)

Perhaps an E.J. appreciation page, LOL

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headl...india.html


Eddie Jordan says: "The stupidest thing he ever did, was, start an F1 team"  

Morini may feel differently though, haha Smile

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  The Torpedo

Posted by: Antilochos
30-08-2018, 06:03 PM
Forum: Driver Contract Gossip
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So, Red Bull is talking with Ferrari about Daniil - The Torpedo - Kvyat for a return to Torro Rosso.

What are your thoughts about this?

I say, give the poor kid a change again. He deserves it.

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  Wobbly Merc rear wing!

Posted by: F1 Fan
28-08-2018, 05:47 PM
Forum: F1 General Discussion Board
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Ferrari say they noticed Mercedes' rear wing perhaps flexing too much at the Belgium Grand Prix, and they hope the FIA did too. (PlanetF1.com) 
https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-no...rear-wing/

Interesting video from Sky Italia worth a look, although Forza maybe the only other man that can understand the commentary!

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  Perez

Posted by: PapaofGags
28-08-2018, 05:41 PM
Forum: Driver Contract Gossip
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http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/1...019-return


Sergio Perez is one of four drivers in contention to partner Carlos Sainz at McLaren next season, Sky Sports has learnt.  

Although Perez has indicated he expects to stay at Force India for 2019, it is understood the 28-year-old is in discussions with McLaren about a potential return to the team.

McLaren have declined to comment about their driver line-up plans for next year.

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  How do you like me now?

Posted by: NeilP
28-08-2018, 09:53 AM
Forum: F1 General Discussion Board
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Well, I got to say I was very uncomplimentary of the halo when it was introduced, having seen totally open cockpits all my time following F1 I thought what an abomination.

Supporters of its introduction made the comments about safety and how in time it would blend into the car and it would not be as noticeable as it was at first and while I was grudgingly okay with the safety aspect of it I thought no way on the visual effects.

Well, as with many things for yours truly I was wrong. Maybe not for all people but for me it has blended into the car. I am looking forward to the video that will be available (I think next season) of the race track from the halo should be an amazing perspective. However more importantly the safety aspect, having seen photographs of Charles Leclerc's Sauber after Sundays race that was for me at least the final nail in the coffin so to speak of any dislike. I love it.

I apologise (not) for the enticing title of the thread from which no doubt had you all lining up to express your views on me, no it was something way more important than that.

Sorry Forza, maybe next time Smile

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  Jean-Eric Vergne

Posted by: NeilP
26-08-2018, 09:26 AM
Forum: Driver Contract Gossip
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With the season getting back under way obviously a lot more talk of who will be driving where next year and indeed into the future has fired up again. Latest rumour is that Jean-Eric Vergne has been approached by an F1 team to be a driver for 2019. It would be interesting to know who that team could be.

Personally IF that is true all I can think of is Toro Rosso wanting to get an experienced driver into the car to replace Hartley as I am sure a young and upcoming Red Bull sponsored driver will be filling the other seat.  Dan Ticktum appears to be a possibility but I dont think he has enough points on his license  (I would be happy to give him some of mine !!!)

Thoughts anyone.....

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  Ocon

Posted by: PapaofGags
25-08-2018, 05:23 PM
Forum: Driver Contract Gossip
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http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/1...qualifying

Lewis Hamilton support for Esteban Ocon after Belgian GP qualifying

"Unfortunately we're in a weird place in F1 where some teams... they'll take whoever has got the money," says Hamilton with Belgian GP qualifying star Ocon's future in doubt

Lewis Hamilton has made the case for "exceptional" Esteban Ocon to be given a "great car" after the Frenchman qualified a career-best third for the Belgian GP amid growing uncertainty over his F1 future.

In the surprise result of Spa qualifying as rain hit the legendary circuit in Q3, Ocon headed an all-Force India second row behind polesitter Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel just days after the team were officially rescued from administration.

The qualifying result, the best of Ocon's short career, marked another milestone for the impressive Frenchman, who has consistently shone since making his debut in the sport two years ago at Spa.
Yet, with an anticipated 2019 move to Renault scuppered by Daniel Ricciardo and Force India expected to sign Lance Stroll for next season after his father bought the team, Ocon is yet to secure a drive for next season.

World champion Hamilton said: "I've always been a supporter of Esteban. I think how he conducts himself and how he performs on track is exceptional.

He added: "You can't let someone who has more money leap in front of a better driver. The governing body definitely has to [address it] somehow.
"In some ways, I wish I was managing him!"

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  Spill the beans time....

Posted by: NeilP
22-08-2018, 07:12 PM
Forum: F1 General Discussion Board
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Okay as I am a relative newcomer to the board I was thinking the other day (I do actually take the old Gray matter out for a walk occasionally) just who do you follow in F1?  Are you a team person (like Forza) or do you follow a specific driver or a few of them? Or maybe do you do a bit of both and even more extreme maybe you just love the sport and do not really follow any individual driver or team.

Obviously personally speaking I have gathered who you follow from a few of you but I would be interested to see it in Black and White so to speak and maybe take it back some years and in my case quite a few of them to who you have followed in your day.

I have watched F1 for many years, mainly from the 1970's onwards. I am not very knowledgeable as to its history and certainly not its technology.  For my part I have always supported British drivers whoever they raced for.  I have admired many, hated very few but respect all of them. F1 has always been behind my love of Cricket, American Football ( I do live in the States as my major home) and soccer. I am pretty much done with soccer its not the game I loved, played and remembered fondly in my younger days.

I was a huge Nigel Mansell fan, was gutted when he left and I did follow him into Indy Car which in those days back then was live on I think one of the Euro Sport channels.  Admired and always have kind of followed Williams but I must admit my fanhood waned long ago.

I am not ashamed to admit my biggest fan support is for Lewis Hamilton, mainly because he is a Brit and I also admire the way he came into F1 from such humble beginning.  I appreciate he is a devisive personality. I kind of follow Mercedes because he races for them, I like Wolff and I like Mercedes road cars. Other than that I still will get behind every British driver who races and I dont care who they race for ( I will even tolerate Red Bull!!!)

Historically I loved Hunt and Lauda their battles were great.  The Prost vs Senna era was amazing. As I age I realise its a waste of time comparing era to era because they are not a level enough playing field. That said I am certain if Senna were alive and young enough to race he would still be right up there in these modern day rocket ships! I think I probably rate him as in my eyes the best of the best.  Michael Schumacher was another amazing guy I just never warmed to him for some reason but he is absolutely up there with Senna in my eyes.

There you go, will be interested to see some more replies and I apologise if this has been done before. Roll on the weekend and we can get into more heated debate and start beating up on each other again, especially Forza!!!

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