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  2019 French GP
Posted by: NeilP - 11-06-2019, 05:55 PM - Forum: 2019 Race Threads - Replies (20)

This was an interesting race last year. Originally it was thought there would be few chances to overtake but the race proved otherwise. I personally like the race track the only issue I have with it is that the pit exit is pretty dangerous. I expect lots of teams will be bringing upgrades to the race.

I think it will suit Mercedes more than Ferrari. It will also be interesting to see how Renault do after what was for them a really good Canadian GP

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  So, that 5 second penalty ...
Posted by: morini - 10-06-2019, 09:11 AM - Forum: F1 General Discussion Board - Replies (50)

There are a number of posts in the Canada 2019 race thread on this, but I thought I would post this up in the hope of keeping the race thread on topic. I guess the incident itself is on topic" but these types of discussion usually go off piste really quick.

Anyway, I'll start by saying I think the penalty was justified. If it wasn't a time penalty then Vettel should have been asked to give the positon away on track. That would probably have been better for him as he would have had a chance to regain the position on the long straights.

This was Hamiltons view (taken from BBC sport website). I agree with all of this.

Hamilton said: "The Ferraris were really quick. I just had to put him under pressure and force a mistake because they were so quick on the back straight that even if I got close into Turn 10 he would just pull away. And he made a mistake.

"Ultimately the rules say when you go off you have to come back on in a safe manner and I was alongside and I had to back off to avoid a collision and I guess that's why they made the decision."

Asked whether he would have preferred to race on without Vettel receiving a penalty, Hamilton said: "If you try to force a guy into a wall, are you saying you shouldn't get a penalty for that? I was going to crash with him, so I had to brake.

"I was just driving the normal line so I shouldn't have been in that position of being close to crashing. It was his responsibility to avoid that, but it ended up being mine. So because of that I lost a chance of passing.

"I won. Of course I want to do it on the track. Even after I knew he had a penalty, I was pushing and thinking maybe I would get another chance. But I was just sliding around and he was too quick on the track."

Later, after watching the incident again, he said: "I watched the replays. It was obviously very close. What I can say is, if I was in the lead and made a mistake and went wide, I would probably have done the same thing, because it happened so quick and you are just trying to hold your position.

"I would have tried to squeeze him, too, and that is ultimately what happened. My opinion on that has not shifted.

"If you did not have that rule, I would have kept it lit and we would have crashed. One way or another it was going to go badly."

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  Nationality cq patriotism
Posted by: Antilochos - 09-06-2019, 10:53 PM - Forum: One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest - Replies (7)

I am just wondering who is who in our little group here. Not that it makes a difference, but it might help to put things into perspective.

With F1, teams and drivers represent countries. I could not care less, but it seems that this does have a influence on people how they look at the sport and everything that concerns it (and there is nothing wrong with it if it does - again I don't mind).

So my question is; what nationality does everyone have here and how does it effect you regarding F1?

To kick it of, I am Dutch. I don't think much about nationality and think patriotism is a silly thing, even a handicap for enjoying a good sport. 
This is me as a person, but looking at where I live it might make sense. I live in the southern part of The Netherlands (very close were the Verstappens live, Montfort NL and Maaseik B) and we live in a narrow part with Germany on one side and Belgium on the other. Down here we speak a dialect, enjoy a more burgundian lifestyle and think people up north are more up tight. My fellow countrymen like to say we in the south are bad German speaking Belgiums.... Maybe that has something to do with it, the way I feel, but maybe it does not.
Enfin. I just like to see drivers and teams fight, no matter their nationality. Fight a hard battle, sweat and tears, maybe some blood here and there. That is what I want. Gladiators without a home, without any other cause to fight then to win. And yes, I am making to much of a drama out of it...
Oh, I am not sensitive about this stuff, so don't hold back coming at me.

PS. Mercedes is German, Morini...

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  Bottas to Renault
Posted by: Jody Barton - 09-06-2019, 09:43 PM - Forum: Driver Contract Gossip - Replies (9)

I know this one could be chalked up to very, very silly rumours, but I'm hearing Renault might actually drop the Hulk and go for Bottas. Apparently they've already made contact with his representatives. What do we reckon? Currently I'd say Bottas is proving not to be good enough to win the WDC and is rapidly losing touch with Hamilton, so I expect Ocon to be in the second car next season, and Bottas to Renault might be a good call for both.

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  Ricciardo Vs Hulkenberg
Posted by: Jody Barton - 09-06-2019, 09:38 PM - Forum: F1 General Discussion Board - Replies (2)

So I couldn't find a thread specifically on this topic, so I've created one. Looking at qualifying stats it's actually starting to look really, really one-sided now, and in the races it's not much better for Hulkenberg, I guess the jury is still out, but I think Ricciardo is starting to boss his team mate a bit, and if this carries on for much longer you might ask whether the rumours of Renault courting Bottas are true.

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  This put a downer on the day
Posted by: morini - 04-06-2019, 09:12 AM - Forum: One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest - Replies (1)

Sad news.


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  Silverstone 2019
Posted by: morini - 01-06-2019, 10:50 AM - Forum: Attending F1 events - Replies (8)

So, hypothetically speaking, if you were to do Silverstone this year what tickets would you go for? GA are £199, Beckets £399, Copse £320 (all three day prices). Where would you park yourself? Or is it better to just wander around on the bankings?

I have not been for decades. Is the traffic as painful as I remember it or have things improved?

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  2019 Canadian GP
Posted by: Jody Barton - 26-05-2019, 05:15 PM - Forum: 2019 Race Threads - Replies (185)

The quicker we move on from that snooze fest the better. Great drive from Lewis to nurse his car home, but it was bloody boring to watch.

Next up Canada, and if Binotto is right about the issues they have with their car they'll be closer to Merc and probably ahead of the Red Bull, but honestly... I can't see past a Mercedes win. Perhaps the red cars can get in amongst them though.

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  Should we have a point for pole?
Posted by: NeilP - 25-05-2019, 02:51 PM - Forum: F1 General Discussion Board - Replies (8)

We have a point for fastest lap should we not have a point for pole position?

Thoughts anyone

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  Sad News as Niki Lauda Passes
Posted by: NeilP - 21-05-2019, 03:09 AM - Forum: F1 General Discussion Board - Replies (28)

Sad day for the F1 Family as Niki Lauda has passed away.

He will always be remembered for his amazing comeback after severe burns in an accident.

Rest in Peace Niki you will be a big loss to many



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