13-11-2018, 12:20 AM
Anti - Neil, you should look at the incident again if you think there was any tangle. Verstappen already passed Ocon and the guy just lunched into him. Why? If it was for position, Verstappen would be in the right. But this was not even for a position. He was lapping Ocon. Why would Ocon think it is useful to try to get back at a car that much faster as himself, since he is being lapped? To make it even worse, it was the race leader!
Took some time but I have watched the incident over again and again and I would comment as follows:
At no time did Verstappens car clear Ocons car and at the time of impact he was just over half a cars length ahead.
At the moment of impact Ocons car was almost completely off track and certainly not on a 'racing line'
I thought you were supposed to give any car in the words of Martin Brundle a cars width and 300 mm!!!! Verstappen did give him 300 mm but forgot about the cars width.
There were no Blue flags because Ocon was catching Verstappen who was clearly A)In tyre saving mode and B) Clearly the slower car at the time.
The crux of this argument appears to be that Ocon was a lap down and should have deferred to Verstappen.
So I would answer your points as follows
He had not passed him.
Verstappen was the one who 'Closed the Door' and left no room for Ocon to go probably expecting him to brake and let Verstappen go.
If it had of been for position I think Verstappen was in the wrong he closed the door and failed to leave the other driver the requisite room.
Your point about the faster car is inaccurate if Verstappen was faster how did Ocon catch him up and set him up to overtake him?
I do not have a dog in this fight, I am not Verstappens biggest fan but I think he is an amazing driver. Like I said before on this post if roles were reversed do we see Verstappen staying behind Ocon, please of course not.
The salient point to me is Verstappen took a chance he absolutely did not need to, so a back marker overtakes you in his faster car, big deal he is a lap down let him go. I think Ocon is taking far too much heat for this incident but clearly (AGAIN) I am in a small minority.
Dont get me started on the Ocon was favouring Hamilton argument if anyone thinks that they are out of their mind or just filled with too much hatred but we all know how much that hatred permeates F1 message boards.
Took some time but I have watched the incident over again and again and I would comment as follows:
At no time did Verstappens car clear Ocons car and at the time of impact he was just over half a cars length ahead.
At the moment of impact Ocons car was almost completely off track and certainly not on a 'racing line'
I thought you were supposed to give any car in the words of Martin Brundle a cars width and 300 mm!!!! Verstappen did give him 300 mm but forgot about the cars width.
There were no Blue flags because Ocon was catching Verstappen who was clearly A)In tyre saving mode and B) Clearly the slower car at the time.
The crux of this argument appears to be that Ocon was a lap down and should have deferred to Verstappen.
So I would answer your points as follows
He had not passed him.
Verstappen was the one who 'Closed the Door' and left no room for Ocon to go probably expecting him to brake and let Verstappen go.
If it had of been for position I think Verstappen was in the wrong he closed the door and failed to leave the other driver the requisite room.
Your point about the faster car is inaccurate if Verstappen was faster how did Ocon catch him up and set him up to overtake him?
I do not have a dog in this fight, I am not Verstappens biggest fan but I think he is an amazing driver. Like I said before on this post if roles were reversed do we see Verstappen staying behind Ocon, please of course not.
The salient point to me is Verstappen took a chance he absolutely did not need to, so a back marker overtakes you in his faster car, big deal he is a lap down let him go. I think Ocon is taking far too much heat for this incident but clearly (AGAIN) I am in a small minority.
Dont get me started on the Ocon was favouring Hamilton argument if anyone thinks that they are out of their mind or just filled with too much hatred but we all know how much that hatred permeates F1 message boards.