Baku 2019 quali chat transcript
#11

*moved your post Anti*

My previous sig was obsolete, McLaren ain't disappointing Heshy no more.
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#12

(27-04-2019, 09:09 PM)Monster Hesh Wrote:  *moved your post Anti*

Anti had already reposted in the race thread, so I removed the duplicate.
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You know my thoughts on whether or not Binotto should let them race. Truth is, he should. Let them sort it out. By not doing that he's essentially given himself another problem to manage further down the line... but then we don't know how close Seb was to spitting his dummy out when Arrivabene brought him into the team. But right now, like I've said all along, despites his obvious flaws and faults Seb is still the better bet... but you couldn't know that for certain. However, I was right about the mediums today, and Binotto handed both Charles and Seb a major handicap, considering there were drivers on serious hot laps as well when he binned it bringing out the red flag, there was a chance Charles would have been pushed out of qualifying any way. Binotto is not doing a good job, and I think it proves Arrivabene was right about there needing to be big changes in the strategic team, and just generally about the team needing to be more professional.

PS. Can't remember whether I brought it up but all those QA and performance managers Arrivabene brought in during the close of 2017 that upset everyone at Maranello because they pointed out how unprofessional everyone was have been let go by Binotto. He's like that teacher who tries to be everyone's friend by not giving any homework... you might like them, but truth is they're not good for your education.
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Race chat - less of us than quali

(11:55:56) forzaferrari: Eyebrows on point today Lewis [Image: razz.png]
(12:47:20) ChatBotmorini logs into the Chat.
(12:47:59) morini: We going to get any on here for the race today?
(12:49:38) forzaferrari: hopefully....if not you and I can just argue the bit out whether LH is a bellend or not lol
(12:50:36) morini: Well, theres not much to argue about there. He's certainly a bellend, but also the best driver out there [Image: smile-big.png]
(12:51:23) morini: Having said that, he's usually pretty shit at this mickey mouse track.
(12:52:43) forzaferrari: perhaps... but I would never bet against him
(12:55:54) morini: What about VB though, he's come out guns blazing this year. Two poles in a row, I'm impressed with his Saturdays so far.
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(12:56:52) forzaferrari: I def wouldnt be upset to see VB win this one if a red car cant
(12:57:14) Antilochos: Hi guys
(12:57:28) forzaferrari: hey Anti
(12:57:42) morini: Afternoon Anti. Who are you backing for the win today?
(12:58:09) Antilochos: I don't mind who wins that much. Just want a good race.
(12:58:28) Antilochos: For the championship, I hope Vettel or Verstappen, but think Hamilton will take it.
(12:58:39) morini: Should be interesting, usually is. Not sure I would call it a good race though [Image: wink.png]
(12:59:04) forzaferrari: I will take ABH....anyone but Ham [Image: kiss.png]
(12:59:17) morini: I'm going for Max. Dark horse and that Honda looks very competetive n the straights.
(12:59:45) forzaferrari: yep, could be in with a shout
(13:00:28) Antilochos: I agree. Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull looked competitive yesterday.
(13:02:17) morini: Jesus, Bernie looking like a right coffin dodger these days!
(13:02:20) AntilochosTest test, see if I am able to change the colour of my text.
(13:03:02) forzaferrari: BOLLOCKS!!!...got to nip out for 10 mins, catch you shortly ffs
(13:03:44) morini: Bad timing or what!
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(13:07:24) Antilochos: Is Forza going to miss out on the start? Worst 10 minutes to be away...poor Forza.
(13:07:54) morini: Yep. I'm not moving until the race has finished [Image: wink.png]
(13:08:59) Antilochos: I planning not to, but there is a little risk for me about half way. At least I get to see the start...
(13:10:22) Antilochos: Where are all the other guys?
(13:11:50) ChatBotNeilP logs into the Chat.
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(13:13:05) morini: I don't know Anti. Neil just logged in and out again. Paps isn't going to join as he's watching the race with his boy.
(13:13:24) morini: Here we go then
(13:14:51) morini: Wonder how much bedlam we'll have this year?
(13:15:21) morini: Wow, bottas is dropping Ham quickly
(13:16:07) Antilochos: Ric and Per great start
(13:16:27) Antilochos: Bottas is on fire indeed.
(13:16:45) Antilochos: Clean start by everyone. Amazing.
(13:16:47) morini: Yep, pulling away quickly
(13:16:49) Jody_Barton: Bottas has bolted
(13:17:23) Antilochos: Hello Jody
(13:18:07) morini: Barring incidents I think VB is determined t make up for last year. He's gone!
(13:19:35) Jody_Barton: Hamilton was very fair there, could have run Bottas out of road if he wanted too.
(13:20:06) morini: Not his style and he's a pretty god team player in general.
(13:22:03) morini: Three seconds in 5 laps. Good lad.
(13:23:02) Antilochos: What is going on with the Torpedo?
(13:23:23) morini: Why's Vettel dropping away so quickly? You think Mercedes are using too much tyre too early? Nice move Max.
(13:24:33) Antilochos: Great move yes. Perez still did good.
(13:24:35) morini: CLC is the fastest red car by far as well.
(13:25:22) morini: But he's got Max next up the road. And Max isn't easy to get by
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(13:28:22) NeilP: Would not rule Leclerc out of this race
(13:29:01) morini: Me either Neil.
(13:29:19) NeilP: Yet more proof that Ferrari number driver is actually Leclerc not Vettel
(13:29:56) NeilP: If there is a safety car my money is on him he is on fire!
(13:30:18) morini: Yep, so easy past Max.
(13:31:03) NeilP: So, when he catches Vettel I am going to assume Ferrari will not tell him to stay behind
(13:31:35) morini: I hope not. He's on the better tyre at this stage, they should let him by.
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(13:32:10) Antilochos: Yesterday those cars seemed very competitive. Now Leclerc is that much faster then them is seems. At least then the Red Bull from Verstappen.
(13:32:32) morini: CLC is much faster than anyone currently.
(13:32:34) Antilochos: Did the latter had a problem? Did not hear what he said on the radio.
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(13:33:05) NeilP: I think leclerc being on the Medium tyre is a big advantage right now
(13:33:11) Antilochos: Bottas is faster then CLC (at least on my delayed stream...).
(13:33:16) Jody_Barton: Hamilton reeling Bottas in
(13:33:22) NeilP: Max is complaining of lack of engine braking
(13:33:39) morini: Yep. Plus he'll have a lighter car on brand new softs later on. I think a win is still on for CLC
(13:34:31) NeilP: Do Mercedes cover off Vettel
(13:34:32) morini: How many laps will thse mediums do?
(13:34:41) Antilochos: Gasly on 7, not bad.
(13:34:42) NeilP: The rest of the race methinks
(13:34:50) Jody_Barton: Yeah CLC could be on for a win
(13:35:39) morini: 40 laps on mediums?
(13:35:57) Antilochos: I don't think they manage that here.
(13:36:08) Antilochos: Not the cars that pit now.
(13:36:18) Jody_Barton: No way 40 laps on the medium
(13:36:28) morini: Chales is catching Hamilton hand over fist.
(13:36:38) Jody_Barton: But Bottas or Hamilton to pit
(13:38:03) morini: Vettel a lot closer to the Mercs now too
(13:38:13) Jody_Barton: Do they pit Lewis now? Surely they have too
(13:38:45) morini: They have done
(13:38:57) Antilochos: Good pit.
(13:39:24) Antilochos: Keeps Vettel behind. Now lets see how hard Leclerc can push it.
(13:40:10) Jody_Barton: Hamilton lost 1.5 seconds to Bottas through the pits
(13:40:23) morini: Hamilton is slow on these medimums. VB pulled away really qucik
(13:41:47) Antilochos: Leclerc can jump Vettel. Will be interesting.
(13:41:49) morini: Saying that hes junst done a fastest lap
(13:43:44) NeilP: I think Leclerc is going to need a safety car he is slowly being caught. Right on the edge of a two stop race methinks
(13:44:29) morini: Wouldn't be surprised if they all need 2 stops TBH.
(13:45:14) NeilP: Me neither I think its right on the limited if a safety car comes it could all depend where you are on the track that could decide the race
(13:45:20) Antilochos: I am expecting a 2 stop by every car.
(13:46:24) Antilochos: By the way, McLaren is doing well. Thought that team was dead.
(13:46:49) Antilochos: Especially compared to Renault.
(13:47:12) morini: I think Hamilton will need 2 for sure. He's taking a lot out of the meds early on.
(13:47:18) NeilP: Renault are so disappointing
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(13:48:03) morini: Hammy catching Valterri quickly now. He was a lot quikcer on this tyre in P2 too.
(13:48:13) NeilP: Hamilton reeling Bottas in
(13:49:31) Antilochos: I don't know about the strategy Neil. Think Bottas is doing well today.
(13:49:53) Antilochos: But Ham is getting close.
(13:50:09) NeilP: He is Anti I wonder if Hamilton has decided he is two stopping and is prepared to have a go
(13:50:26) morini: I think Ham is just quicker on this tyre.
(13:50:36) Antilochos: Could just be. Don't know if they have team orders to keep it cool.
(13:51:14) NeilP: Mercedes is easily the better car on Mediums
(13:51:19) Antilochos: Is Leclerc doing a one stop?
(13:51:21) morini: No idea how this one is going to pan out.
(13:51:30) NeilP: I dont think there will be any team orders in Mercedes Anti
(13:51:39) morini: I would expect LeClerc to try for 1 stop, yes.
(13:51:54) NeilP: Absolutely I still think tehy are all planning 1 stop
(13:51:56) Antilochos: He is losing time it seems.
(13:52:43) Antilochos: You said it before Neil and I thought it would not be possible. Now I'm getting doubt...
(13:53:05) morini: Ham must have made a mistake, he dropped 0.5 secs that lap
(13:54:18) NeilP: He has backed off
(13:54:21) morini: Hmmm.., lewis dropping back quick now.
(13:55:00) Antilochos: I don't think Mercedes lets their drivers fight on a risky circuit like this.
(13:55:24) NeilP: Le clerc is now in no mans land too early to stop for softs and he is being caught and will be a full pit stop behind by the time he chnages
(13:55:54) NeilP: He will be 2 seconds afaster at the end but he may be too far back by then
(13:56:01) Antilochos: If I have to call it now, I say Bottas-Hamilton-Vettel will be result.
(13:56:38) morini: I reckon Hamilton is backing off too much here.
(13:57:31) Antilochos: I think Hamilton is following the strategy of his team. It worked out well for him in the past.
(13:58:17) morini: If theres no safety cars this'll be finishing order once CLC pits.
(13:58:38) NeilP: I find it funny that sky praise Ferrari for pushing Mercedes tyres then when vettel gets after Hamilton they ignore the fact he is pushing his tyres
(13:59:12) NeilP: Lapping other cars could be interesting times
(13:59:12) morini: Yeah, I ignore what they say Niel.
(13:59:45) NeilP: too much analysis They say a lot that means nothing. They react to every tiny time movement
(14:00:06) morini: Yup
(14:00:27) morini: Do you get the Sky feed out there Neil?
(14:00:43) NeilP: ESPN have Sky over here
(14:00:59) NeilP: The previuous lot were so dire I ahd to switch teh sound off
(14:01:20) morini: Heh. I do that sometimes!!
(14:01:20) Antilochos: Where is over there Neil?
(14:01:29) NeilP: I am a little behind your guys feed methinks
(14:01:41) NeilP: I am in Michigan USA Anti
(14:01:50) Antilochos: On ESPN stream as well, round 26 now.
(14:01:56) Antilochos: 27
(14:02:25) NeilP: Yes its close Anti, maybe 1/2 lap
(14:02:34) NeilP: Hamilton Catching Bottas and pulling Vettel again
(14:02:57) morini: Catching is one thing, passing is another.
(14:03:13) NeilP: Excatly
(14:03:18) Antilochos: Very true
(14:03:40) NeilP: But that tow on the long straight is formnidable
(14:04:20) morini: I think if Lewis has anything he should have a go now while CLC is giving Bottas dirty air.
(14:05:34) NeilP: I think a one stop is what it will be LeClerc started on Full fuel load and is still setting decent times
(14:05:43) Antilochos: Wonder where Leclerc will end; before or behind Verstappen. Other then that, I think this is about it. Don't see the top three fight it out.
(14:06:29) morini: Charles is backing them all up into each other.
(14:06:46) NeilP: Hamilton is close tho Bottas than Bottas is to Leclerc
(14:07:19) morini: Not a lot in that from where I am watching from
(14:08:02) morini: Think Lew will have DRS this next lap
(14:08:12) Antilochos: Hamilton is getting really close.
(14:09:45) morini: That move wibns bottas the race!!
(14:10:02) morini: Leclerc between the wto of them
(14:10:27) Antilochos: Don't tell us! We are behind you Morini...
(14:11:19) Antilochos: Good move Bottas. He is doing well today.
(14:11:50) Antilochos: Ricc messed up Kvyats day...
(14:12:20) morini: Hamilton has it all to do again, Theres a torro rosso between them on the track now
(14:12:46) morini: Oh, sorrry guys. I ddn't realise yo were behind our feed!!
(14:13:37) Antilochos: No worry.
(14:13:38) morini: Verstappen has some pace.
(14:14:16) Antilochos: Yes, maybe he did solve the issue he had at the start.
(14:15:20) morini: CLC is going to be fast until the end of the race now.
(14:15:23) NeilP: I think Ferrari may have been better off running Leclerc on a two stop
(14:15:55) NeilP: He will be super fast now Morini but maybe too much to do
(14:16:59) Antilochos: Now he has to fight two Red Bulls.
(14:17:30) Antilochos: Not good for a one stop strategy with soft tyre.
(14:17:36) morini: Yep. I think he's looking at 5th.
(14:18:00) Antilochos: If Red Bull does not mess up, they should keep Verstappen in front.
(14:18:15) Antilochos: Hamilton is getting close again.
(14:18:20) NeilP: Look at Gasly holding leClerc off for so long on those ages old tyres. Its a one stop for sure
(14:18:40) Antilochos: Good work Gasly.
(14:18:52) Antilochos: All he could do.
(14:18:55) morini: I think Valterri has this one covered now.
(14:20:02) NeilP: I would not write off Hamilton yet
(14:20:43) morini: Surprised Leclerc isn't doing fastest laps.
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(14:21:47) NeilP: Norris and Sainz having a good race for McLaren
(14:21:55) Antilochos: Just saw the replay of Ricc. Poor guy is trying so hard, Ricc is trying to hard that is makes silly mistakes like this.
(14:22:09) Jody_Barton: I think Mercedes might need to give Bottas the hurry up... Because Vettel is going to put them under pressure, and Hamilton looks quicker.
(14:22:12) morini: LeCelerc can't get heat in those I tryes I don't think
(14:23:22) NeilP: Good call Jody
(14:23:33) Antilochos: Verstappen is driving well this second part of the race.
(14:24:06) Jody_Barton: Honestly, Toto needs to be asking their mathematicians
(14:24:31) NeilP: More Honda unreliability!
(14:24:42) Antilochos: Ah, is that Gasly?
(14:24:53) Antilochos: He finally was doing well.
(14:25:02) morini: Backmarkers when the VSC ends
(14:25:23) Antilochos: Luck for Leclerc I say.
(14:25:55) Jody_Barton: Why the VSC?
(14:25:58) NeilP: Oh Gearbox they are saying
(14:26:00) morini: LeClerc too far back now I reckon.
(14:26:17) Antilochos: How far is he?
(14:26:34) morini: Wanna see Max get Vettel!!!
(14:26:50) Antilochos: Would be fun Morini.
(14:26:52) morini: 38 sec9nds ack Anti
(14:26:55) morini: back
(14:27:35) Antilochos: So Neil, you were right with the one stop.
(14:27:45) morini: Lewis lost a second on that VSC endinig
(14:28:33) morini: VB has it in the bag now. Fair play he's managed the race perfectly up to now.
(14:29:07) NeilP: Hamilton lost a lot of time on that VSC
(14:29:40) Jody_Barton: Wow ended in an awful place for Lewis
(14:30:31) morini: Yup. He'll be under pressure from Vettel
(14:31:57) Antilochos: Would be good for championship if Vettel overtakes Hamilton.
(14:32:08) morini: Come on, lets see a charge now
(14:32:56) morini: Well, it's VB who will be leading the WDC after this one, courtesy of his fastest lap in Melbourne
(14:33:43) NeilP: I am not writing Hamilton off yet Morini
(14:33:48) morini: And he's got it here now too! Well done VB
(14:33:50) Antilochos: Anyway, safe to call Mercedes as winning team this year already now…
(14:34:07) Antilochos: Morini, I'm just at lap 44...
(14:34:33) morini: Oh sorry! I'll shut up
(14:35:14) Antilochos: lol
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(14:38:33) NeilP: Not looking good for Ferrari Constructors challenge!!!
(14:38:41) morini: Merces have dropped Vettel, but Bottas is dirving perfectly here.
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(14:39:35) Antilochos: Bottas did good. Hope he takes this form with him in the next races.
(14:39:38) morini: CLC pitting again. A tilt at fastest lap.
(14:40:00) Jody_Barton: Can't see Lewis getting Bottas, just can't get in the slipstream / DRS
(14:40:57) morini: He's just got fastest lap though (lewis) and he's got DRS now
(14:43:12) morini: Nail biting!!!
(14:44:23) NeilP: Hamiltons tyres are not as good as Bottas
(14:45:10) Antilochos: He went wide.
(14:45:28) Antilochos: Bottas seems safe.
(14:45:38) Jody_Barton: Game over he blew it
(14:46:05) Antilochos: Bottas deserves to win today.
(14:46:08) morini: Yep, tough ask though. CLC got fastest lap, VB leads the WDC
(14:46:40) NeilP: Great race from Bottas and a killer race for Mercedes
(14:46:51) Antilochos: Whole top 10 drove good today.
(14:47:03) Antilochos: Even Stroll...
(14:47:04) NeilP: Yes they did
(14:47:06) morini: Well, Hamilton did get DRS at one stage, but just couldn't do it.
(14:47:07) Jody_Barton: WCC over
(14:47:22) NeilP: Yes Jody it sure is
(14:47:52) morini: WCC and WDC I reckon. Good as VB has been up to now, Lewsi is close and we know he can ramp up.
(14:48:01) Antilochos: Yep, also Mercedes deserves it.
(14:48:16) Antilochos: I think Hamilton will take Bottas as well.
(14:48:22) morini: Four 1 - 2 's in a row! What about that
(14:48:53) NeilP: That first two corners in Quali cost Hamilton pole, he drove a good race today this is not one of his favourite races
(14:49:20) Jody_Barton: Leclerc driver of the day? No sorry, Bottas. He didn't put a foot wrong
(14:49:37) NeilP: Bottas for me
(14:49:43) Antilochos: Bottas for me. But Perez did good as well.
(14:50:05) morini: Nope LH doesn't have great races around here.
(14:50:10) NeilP: WDC is going to be between the Mercedes drivers I dont think Ferrari can get close
(14:51:13) NeilP: Mercedes are super strong at Spain too, too many people ignored Ferraris record at this track which is not good
(14:51:23) NeilP: Its not good at Spain either
(14:51:36) Jody_Barton: Agree NeilP. It's Bottas or Lewis' WDC. Maybe a repeat of Rosberg?
(14:52:05) NeilP: Yes it will be interesting to watch the dynamics between the two
(14:52:24) morini: Only of Bottas gets the reliability luck as per Rosberg. I think LH will have the better of him over a season.
(14:52:53) NeilP: Agreed Morini, I dont know what to make of what Ferrari can do
(14:53:00) Antilochos: I agree with Mornini, although I hope it will be a tight battle with Bottas on top.
(14:53:17) Antilochos: Ferrari is still second team. Mercedes is just so good.
(14:53:36) morini: But having said that, I wouldn;t begruge VB a WDC. I think he's a great qualifier, but I've yet to see him win by passing on the track.
(14:54:32) Antilochos: That is a statement I agree with strongly. Bottas is fast, but he misses that race instinct on track (but we talked a lot about this already).
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Sorry guys, ended up being about 20 mins behind you so made no point being online. Next time.

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(28-04-2019, 03:48 PM)forzaferrari Wrote:  Sorry guys, ended up being about 20 mins behind you so made no point being online. Next time.

No worries. It wasn't a great watch TBH.

One thing to keep in mind for the future (I didn't realise) some of our non UK based chums are watching feeds a bit behind ours. Anti and Neil were about a lap behind me.
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(28-04-2019, 03:55 PM)morini Wrote:  No worries. It wasn't a great watch TBH.

One thing to keep in mind for the future (I didn't realise) some of our non UK based chums are watching feeds a bit behind ours. Anti and Neil were about a lap behind me.

Same if I was to watch online/via xbox there is a lag but only by 20-30 secs....you guys commented on something yesterday and I was thinking WTF are they talking about lol

"You live more for 5 minutes going fast on a bike than other people do in all of their life"....Marco Simoncelli
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