What is wrong with F1?
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(10-04-2018, 10:51 PM)forzaferrari Wrote:  
(10-04-2018, 10:39 PM)Jody Barton Wrote:  Abu Dhabi is an utterly pants track, hate Singapore (I know like the night time race) and Sochi is just an awful track... and I'd drop 

 Not great. So for me I'm really concerned about where Liberty Media will take F1 metaphorically and physically in terms of venues.

Agree with all that Jody except the Baku bit...I quite like it (but I get what you are saying)

Baku is not nice either imo apart from the giant straight its a procession, sorry mate I know there was excitement last year but.... I think I would bring back Hockenheim too actually  Smile
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Baku could be a good track, it could be. However, I'm not entirely sure it will be, but fair enough, give it a few more seasons, I'm not sure though. I also think Hockenheim is back next this year isn't it? After the summer break? F1 does need to sort the tracks out though. Losing a track like Silverstone while Sochi and Abu Dhabi remain though would be an utter travesty.
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Hockenheim is july 22 then Hungary 29th then its the summer break (had to check)...has there been any more talk/rumours about Silverstone?

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Forza as I've heard and from what I've heard Silverstone's last race will in 2019. Liberty Media's current plan is to replace it with the proposed Copenhagen race, which would be a disaster. I've walked the proposed circuit in Copenhagen as part of a team. It's not good enough as a circuit and it'll require a lot of work to get up to spec.
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Singapore I really enjoy, sure it doesn't create good races but, the spectacle is ace, the buildings, lights and landscaping. Plus I really enjoy it on the game, a track I have great pace at.

Baku needs to be a night race also, it would make Baku a calendar highlight. Last years race would of been amazing under flood lights, sparkle central on the start finish, 4 cars wide.

Abu and Sochi are terrible, exactly the same characteristics that just don't work for F1 races. Sochi turn 4 is the only good thing.

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I absolutely agree with what LotusLover said, although I wouldn't get as technical.

If an engineer in any team comes up with a great idea, and perhaps give his team an advantage, the FIA are off banning it... I often wonder how good Formula 1 would be these days WITHOUT the FIA! On the wikipedia page of the 1993 Formula 1 world championship, it said that season was very technically advanced, and the FIA went on banning a whole lot of things for 1994.

I also don't understand why Formula 1 is SO REGULATED these days. It was but the 90's when we had a mix of engines, e.g. 1994 saw Ferrari with a V12, Williams-Renault with a V10, Benetton-Ford with a V8. Now every one has to have the EXACT same engine.

And yet the spread has gotten worse. IN 1989 there were 20 teams competing. 10 scored a podium, 16 scored a point (needed to be top 6 in those days), and although McLaren dominated, they still lost 5 out of 16 races! Four teams scored a win!
In 2017, Only 10 teams were competing, all but one of 60 podiums was from three teams. I think 90% of all top 6 positions were taken by four teams ( Force India being the fourth ).

I think FOM has been trying to make Formula 1 into 'super league' style, which is why only 10 teams receive payments (we all saw what happened to Manor when they finished 11th). I think that started in the 90's as well. By mid 1996 F1, with the folding of Forti, F1 was down to 9 or 10 teams?

(10-04-2018, 10:39 PM)Jody Barton Wrote:  Abu Dhabi is an utterly pants track, hate Singapore (I know like the night time race) and Sochi is just an awful track... and I'd drop the Hungaroring and Melbourne, ...

Personally bring back Turkey, Malaysia in a flash. No more city circuits...

What I find interesting is that the early Tilke circuits have actually been producing very good racing these days. Bahrain, China, Malaysia. These days Bahrain and China have been providing a double dose of great races right near the start of the season. Some people are also saying they miss the Turkey circuit.

Anyway, it's also good to see classic circuits like the Paul Ricard coming back to the racing, even if they are 'Tilke-fied'

Perhaps only having one circuit designer, Tilke, has caused many circuits to have similar 'characteristics'. They might have benefitted from having a couple of different designers making tracks, to get 'variation'?
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It's funny this topic. I see all the comments about the car regulations, and as much as I enjoy the technical, frankly engineering porn of F1. It's not what is wrong for me. Sure, I understand currents reg's severely compromise actual racing, but if they didn't it would always be fastest car at the front. It's good to see fast cars stuck behind slow cars : P

This sport will never be at the caliber of MotoGP level of track action, because cars are too wide and racing lines too small, with 0.5-1s braking zones. If anything, bring back shitty brakes so drivers have to work at braking.

Anyway, I trialed off. For me whats wrong with F1 is the lack of accessible information for fans.This sport is the most technical in the world and with that is a wealth of information. I've ranted elsewhere about the sheer abortion of Liberty's censorship of information this year. So that what I long for, easier access to a greater load of information, I'd love official telemetry graphs. Which are also badly needed in the official game.

I always found it odd that before Liberty and the telemetry graphic came on screen, it showed dynamic throttle application with a big green bar, yet brake was always just on or off. would love to of known how much pressure percentage the driver was applying to the brake. Now we have nothing.

Totally agree Brandan, I don't understand Tilke monopoly on the whole track design scene.

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fa...s-1026982/

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There's no way they would make change to aero regs for next season. So little time and no budget in the teams for it to happen. If they change the front wing, the whole car needs changing.

They knew all this when these regs were written up for 2017. They messed up so they should suffer the consequences. 2021 isn't too far off, so just get it right then.

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(16-04-2018, 06:34 PM)Monster Hesh Wrote:  There's no way they would make change to aero regs for next season. So little time and no budget in the teams for it to happen. If they change the front wing, the whole car needs changing.

They knew all this when these regs were written up for 2017. They messed up so they should suffer the consequences. 2021 isn't too far off, so just get it right then.

Yeah you are right there, however on the world stage there just isnt the excitement and spectacle that F1 and LM crave, the sport has had so many processional races over the past few years (from average joe`s perspective) the pressure is on for them to put on a show and turn things around.

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