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(20-06-2018, 10:58 AM)Monster Hesh Wrote:  Ferrari Canada updates.

https://formulaone21.wordpress.com/2018/...ari-sf71h/

When was the last time we saw Ferrari this relentless with updates? They get slated for lack or poor in season development, this year so far at least, they have brought updates that have all worked (except maybe some optimisation of a rear suspension in Spain. Which was later used after the post race test). I hope they can continue after the summer break, as I guess that is usually the time other teams bring substantial gains.

Yes bud, fantastic (for us ferrari fans) to see them being more pro-active for a change....hope they can keep this up throughout the remainder of the season without tripping over themselves Wink

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Speculation is all we have. AMuS analysis on what they can get their hands on.

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Ferrari drives the competition on the straights around the ears. And the puzzle puzzles how Ferrari mobilizes so much power in the short term. Only the factory team benefits from the supposed performance boost. Haas and Sauber drive in the normal range.

It's a puzzle that is currently haunting everyone in Formula One . Not only Ferrari's direct competitors Mercedes and Red Bull. Everyone would like to know why Ferrarihas been winning so much time on certain straights since the GP Austria .

In Hockenheim it was over all straights added 4 tenths on Mercedes and 8 tenths on Red Bull. This is a class difference. Nico Hülkenberg was amazed: "They take me on the straight from the Mercedes Arena to driveway Motodrom one tenth. That's only 300 meters. "

We got a GPS comparison of the ten fastest practice laps at Hockenheim. The proves what Ferrari's opponents tell only behind closed doors. The miraculous speed increase is by no means recognizable on all straights. And where it is the case, not even the entire straight line, but only in a certain area.

The phenomenon also occurs mainly in qualifying, after the start or re-starts and in other crucial stages of the race. This pattern has already been observed at the Red Bull Ring and at Silverstone. And there is no explanation for this until today. Only guesswork.

Power boost between 250 and 320 km / h
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The best example is the full throttle section between Turn 2 and Turn 6 in Hockenheim. These are the Parabolika bow to the hairpin. The passage is 1,100 meters long. It ranges from kilometer 0.8 to kilometer 1.9. About 850 meters of it DRS may be activated.

Everything is unsuspicious at the first 200 meters. The speed graphs are almost congruent with each other like a thick, colorful bundle of lines. Only at 225 km / h, the lines begin to separate. Ferrari , Mercedes and Force India still the same, the rest already a bit behind.

At 250 km / h or km 1.4, the scissors suddenly start to rise dramatically. Ferrari is away from the rest of the world. And clearly. Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Raikkonen remain at the same level for a while, then Raikkonen falls back slightly.

The strange thing: in the last 50 meters, the lines of Vettel , Räikkönen, Bottas and Perez are back in the same corridor. 5 km / h behind them, then the two Renault of Carlos Sainz and Nico Hulkenberg, far off Max Verstappen in the Red Bull.


Ferrari won in this section on all others in a range between 250 and 320 km / h. On the short straight line between turns 1 and 2, the delta only increases from 280 km / h, which is due to the fact that the drivers take the exit from the Motodrom at 265 to 275 km / h. Between the hairpin and curve 8, the effect can already be observed from 225 km / h. On the short straight to the Motodrom Ferrari wins only on the cars with Renault engine. There's Mercedes at ball height.

For 38 hp you need two years of development
If the speed gain alone would be due to the drive, then Ferrari would have 28 kilowatts (38 hp) more than Mercedes. "This is a jump for which you need two years with normal development," Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff compares.

In introducing the Spec2 engine of Ferrari in Canada only a moderate PS jump was measured. The fact that the performance exploded only two races later, allows two conclusions. Either Ferrari drove the engine development initially on the conservative side and has only turned with more certainty on the PS screw or has pushed behind a software development or subsequently modified the gasoline system.

Against thesis 1 argues that only Ferrari, but not the customer teams of HaasF1 and Sauber benefit from it. They must be provided with the same hardware and motor programs. Since Räikkönen still drives the first stage of the 2018 engine after his engine change at the GP Spain , the internal combustion engine can not actually be the key. MGU-K, battery and power electronics were renewed in all six cars with Ferrari power only in Hockenheim. So here's no indication.

If the secret lies in the drive, it must be a part that the plant does not have to homologate and pass on to customers. For example, the gasoline pipes. As long as the pressure in the lines is below 10 bar, they count to the chassis. All others are part of the drive unit. The fact is that Ferrari meets the permitted flow rate of 100 kilograms per hour better than the customers, who notice fluctuations over and over again.

That may have to do with the lines, but is still no explanation: "If you can control the performance as determined as Ferrari apparently does it, the other reason must have as a clever invention to keep the pressure in the gasoline system always constant. That would also be an advantage for every area on the track, "argues Mercedes engine chief Andy Cowell.

Does Ferrari reduce air resistance?
In the Erklärungsnot shoot at the opponents all sorts of theories, from legal gray area to illegal. There is talk of an additional tank behind the flow rate measurement, of more energy than allowed in the battery, of feeding electrical power beyond the permitted 120 kilowatts (163 hp) addition. Renault sporting director Cyrul Abiteboul even calls for standard software to dispel any doubts.

The FIA has repeatedly checked Ferrari after the battery affair and has come to the conclusion every time that everything is legal. You obviously know the trick and amused that the enemy now shoot in all directions in the hope of something to hit. As a result, anyone reporting Ferrari abuse is on the wrong steamer.

Maybe it has nothing to do with the drive in the end? "Maybe Ferrari has found something to drastically reduce aerodynamic drag at high speeds," puzzles Force India technical director Andy Green. "That would mean that the customers get nothing from it. If Ferrari has a trick on the car, they certainly will not tell HaasF1 and Sauber. "

Again, we hear: wrong track. "If Ferrari had found anything in that direction, the other teams would have come to them long ago. The teams study all the videos and take photos on the track and in the pits. You can not keep this secret, "explains an expert. Bet that the topic will keep us busy.

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https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form...ro-benzin/

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#93

Great minds think alike Hesh, I post the same article in another thread...I will delete mine Wink

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#94

Ferrari is to test a major new floor update at the United States Grand Prix 
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferra...p/3197602/

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Ferrari has also made changes to the complexity of its bargeboard area as well, with a host of new fins along the leading edge.

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(19-10-2018, 10:48 AM)forzaferrari Wrote:  Ferrari is to test a major new floor update at the United States Grand Prix 

Be interesting to see if these updates make them more competitive. They looked nowhere at the last race.
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(19-10-2018, 12:14 PM)morini Wrote:  Be interesting to see if these updates make them more competitive. They looked nowhere at the last race.

Yeah, as Jody had said previously it looked like some of their past upgrades either took them in the wrong direction or caused problems in other areas, fingers crossed they get back on top of things and give us a bit of racing up front and not let the Mercs walk away

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It's a major update for only a handful of races left. Maybe more exploratory for next year?
Some are saying this update may bring a great amount of downforce, control outwash, conditioning for the diffuser and sealing floor: all bringing very little drag with it. This is all part of the new front wing update they brought in Russia, enabling a more cleaner airflow, from the front, through the barge boards and energising the air with those floor elements.

Here's hoping it works, what is good, to see some noticeable updates this late into the season.

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#98

Ferrari became the first Formula 1 team to run a new generation of brake discs at the Mexican Grand Prix, featuring an unprecedented 1400 holes to help cooling...hopefully they didnt cheat and drill 1401 holes Wink

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferra...c/3205152/

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