2020 Spanish GP - Printable Version

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RE: 2020 Spanish GP - morini - 15-08-2020

(15-08-2020, 12:33 PM)forzaferrari Wrote: Could well be.....but if(?) the fia have requested the info, why now?

Because Liberty Media are forcing the FIA to slow the fastest team down. As simple as that. No team can live with them so it's obvious they are doing something wrong.

Liberty Media are the worst thing to ever happen to F1. And the FIA are just puppets.

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - morini - 15-08-2020

(15-08-2020, 12:34 PM)PaddyB Wrote: Anyone else listening to Sky and thinking it is good to have Rosberg giving Crofty grief about his twaddle and non-F1 shite and talking more about the reasons for things happening on track? Even the other presenters are egging Rosberg on....

I watched P3 with the sound off.

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - forzaferrari - 15-08-2020

(15-08-2020, 12:37 PM)morini Wrote: Because Liberty Media are forcing the FIA to slow the fastest team down. As simple as that. No team can live with them so it's obvious they are doing something wrong.

Liberty Media are the worst thing to ever happen to F1. And the FIA are just puppets.

Dont recall the same being said when Ferrari got pulled up for it......or was that cause we have form? Tongue

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - Jody Barton - 15-08-2020

Well we'll see. Mercedes engines have been raked over since 2014. The irony being that the Merc engines have been reviewed more than any other engine, so if they've been doing a naughty then it'll be deeply embarrassing to all concerned. You'd have to hope it's Mercedes cheating, because if it is Ferrari (heaven forbid), Honda or Renault it'll be very, very grim.

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - forzaferrari - 15-08-2020

(15-08-2020, 12:44 PM)Jody Barton Wrote: because if it is Ferrari (heaven forbid), Honda or Renault it'll be very, very grim.

Oi, I`ll have you know the Fiat 500 engines we are now using are 100% legal!

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - Jody Barton - 15-08-2020

Interestingly if we're talking whistleblowers... Well Racing Point have recently acquired some former Renault guys. Obviously a big wig has left Mercedes, and when you have whistleblowers it's normally when people have left teams.

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - morini - 15-08-2020

(15-08-2020, 12:42 PM)forzaferrari Wrote: Dont recall the same being said when Ferrari got pulled up for it......or was that cause we have form?

Yes, your lot do have form it has to be said, it's clear Ferrari were cheating last year. I didn't say it at the time, gave them the benefit of the doubt when they were suddenly the best PU on the grid. But the fact is the FIA have kept all the details of that situation behind closed doors. So, how can us fans trust anything the FIA say or do from now on?

F1 has always been corrupt, but now we have a sudden out of nowhere (not confirmed anywhere reliable that I can see) rumour that Mercedes are cheating. I'll ask you, why would they need to? This year they have a much, much better car (not just engine) than the rest of the field. The competition should just suck it up and do better.

I'll tell you what though, even if the FIA do somehow manage to cripple Mercedes this year I would still put money on them beating everyone else.

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - morini - 15-08-2020

(15-08-2020, 12:44 PM)Jody Barton Wrote: Well we'll see. Mercedes engines have been raked over since 2014. The irony being that the Merc engines have been reviewed more than any other engine, so if they've been doing a naughty then it'll be deeply embarrassing to all concerned. You'd have to hope it's Mercedes cheating, because if it is Ferrari (heaven forbid), Honda or Renault it'll be very, very grim.

As I say above, I see no reason for Mercedes to cheat. It's all rumour as far as I can see anyway.

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - Jody Barton - 15-08-2020

Sorry Forza, didn't mean to besmirch Ferrari, but if it is Ferrari again it'd deeply upset me. I don't like seeing where they are as a team, doesn't feel right. We know they've at the very least bent the rules, so in pursuit of speed I wouldn't be surprised if another engine manufacturer has been tempted. Obviously all eyes will be on Mercedes given the performance gap they have, they just look like the obvious culprits if one of them have been doing a naughty. Doesn't mean it is Mercedes, or that any of them have been doing a naughty, but if they have a whistleblower then yeah, someone's in trouble most likely.

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - PaddyB - 15-08-2020

(15-08-2020, 12:48 PM)Jody Barton Wrote: Interestingly if we're talking whistleblowers... Well Racing Point have recently acquired some former Renault guys. Obviously a big wig has left Mercedes, and when you have whistleblowers it's normally when people have left teams.

Personal view -

I cant see it being Ferrari because i would expect that the FIA were all over it last year during the "investigation" which has never been published and i also think that the politics would be not to force additional pain onto the red team at the moment unless one of the other teams has decided to go for a bit of "kick em while they are down".
If it was Merc then i would have expected the amount of scrutiny it has had to have been seen before now.
Honda is a possible but it would be a major loss of face to them and i would worry about it being enough (if it drops them back a lot again) to pull out of F1 altogether.
Renault would be my most likely simply because i think they don't have a lot of friends at the moment and no-one is using their engines next year.