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RE: 2020 Spanish GP - morini - 15-08-2020

I just watched the C4 highlights program, mostly because I much prefer the team on there to the Sky muppets. A couple of things I picked up on.

1. There were timing issues (inconsistencies) on the TV for the Q3 runs. The "on screen" time after run 1 said LH beat VB time by 0.114, but it turned out to be 0.059. I don't quite understand that, unless maybe that 0.114 was how much quicker Ham was through S3? What is the excuse for not having accurate info on the screens at all times? The TV coverage provided by FOM is quite poor at times. I think we all moaned about the in race delta times switching around last week. They need to get this right all the time!

2. LH topped every single session apart from FP1 where he was 0.039 behind his teammate (less than the gap in Q3). I would call that a "dominant" weekend so far.

I can't find any real data to try and estimate what is going on with potential race pace though. All I've heard is RBR being really happy with their long runs. Shouldn't be this hard to find data really!

Looking forward to the race tomorrow. I hope it doesn't turn out to be a boring one.

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - Antilochos - 15-08-2020

(15-08-2020, 07:38 PM)morini Wrote:  Looking forward to the race tomorrow. I hope it doesn't turn out to be a boring one.

Hope and expectation, not the same thing....
Now this is really getting silly; Toto Wolf calling Verstappen favourite for tomorrow.
Come on. It works sometimes, but at this stage Toto, when Mercedes is winning everything by a 1-2, don't act like we are stupid silly muppets. MERCEDES is favourite and if you don't get a 1-2 it is shame on YOU!

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - PapaofGags - 15-08-2020

(15-08-2020, 09:13 PM)Antilochos Wrote:  
Now this is really getting silly; Toto Wolf calling Verstappen favourite for tomorrow.
Come on. It works sometimes, but at this stage Toto, when Mercedes is winning everything by a 1-2, don't act like we are stupid silly muppets. MERCEDES is favourite and if you don't get a 1-2 it is shame on YOU!


I'm really looking forward to your post should Max win tomorrow Anti  Wink

If Max's race pace & deg is to be believed or should he nail the start?

I'm hoping for a race......  Big Grin  or I'll be completely wrong "again" & the Pink Panthers nail him  Tongue

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - Antilochos - 15-08-2020

(15-08-2020, 09:36 PM)PapaofGags Wrote:  
(15-08-2020, 09:13 PM)Antilochos Wrote:  
Now this is really getting silly; Toto Wolf calling Verstappen favourite for tomorrow.
Come on. It works sometimes, but at this stage Toto, when Mercedes is winning everything by a 1-2, don't act like we are stupid silly muppets. MERCEDES is favourite and if you don't get a 1-2 it is shame on YOU!


I'm really looking forward to your post should Max win tomorrow Anti  Wink

If Max's race pace & deg is to be believed or should he nail the start?

I'm hoping for a race......  Big Grin  or I'll be completely wrong "again" & the Pink Panthers nail him  Tongue


Yeah, I have a very high regard for Toto and it ís in the back of my head; what if he is right? What if Verstappen wins? What an ass am I? Am I that blind?
But, sometimes I just like to put myself in that position. If I am wrong, I am still thinking on what there is to say for me...

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - morini - 16-08-2020

(15-08-2020, 10:34 PM)Antilochos Wrote:  Yeah, I have a very high regard for Toto and it ís in the back of my head; what if he is right? What if Verstappen wins? What an ass am I? Am I that blind?
But, sometimes I just like to put myself in that position. If I am wrong, I am still thinking on what there is to say for me...

Sky coverage during practice sessions is very, very poor. They force you to listen to Croft rambling on with all his awful ideas on how to "improve" the sport rather than giving any information on lap times. During the long runs in P2 (I admit I watched a recording and skipped large parts of it) I don't think they mentioned lap times once.

After practice both Horner and Toto singled out Verstappen's long run pace, therefore I can only assume he is a very real threat and will be strong in the race. It is possible that strategy will win as this track isn't renowned for its overtaking. We will see later today.

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - Jody Barton - 16-08-2020

Right a few things here, on long run pace Verstappen pace this week was roughly the same % away from Lewis' Friday pace at Silverstone last week as an average lap time, as he was Bottas' Friday pace. However, there is a big, big difference, last week the Mercedes stint pace at the start was blistering, literally. Lewis started his stints almost 2 seconds a lap quicker than Max, but rapidly fell away. Bottas did the same. This weekend Bottas drove to a set delta with almost metronomic precision, actually a really impressive period where he lapped for 6 laps towards the end of a stint on the Mediums within a tenth of each other, and was roughly 0.25 quicker per lap than Max. Actually it was Max who fell away towards the end of his stint. Another thing to note was that Lewis was able to lap within a tenth of his team mate on the Hard tyre, but both destroyed the Soft, whereas Max kept his alive. If Mercedes are running line astern first and second at the start Max can push all he likes, they'll control the race no problem. If he gets the jump on one or both Mercs then it could get spicy. Mercedes might be the only team to be able to make the Hard tyres work.

Another big caveat... just watched Lewis' pole lap... I shouldn't be surprised Rosberg was right about Lewis' front suspension being stiffer than a gigolo on Viagra, but it was hard, rock solid actually. Bottas was riding curbs whereas Lewis just missed them at most. Friday Lewis' suspension was soft as hell. Rosberg saw it straight away, because he knows what he's talking about, he thinks Lewis' car is set up for the race. So that will be interesting to see play out. Nothing is a foregone conclusion, and with higher temps again maybe Mercedes will struggle, but I wouldn't be surprised, barring disaster if this weekend is a lot more comfortable than last weekend for them, make no mistake though, on race pace Max could be a threat if Mercedes do have a few niggles.

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - morini - 16-08-2020

(16-08-2020, 09:45 AM)Jody Barton Wrote:  Another thing to note was that Lewis was able to lap within a tenth of his team mate on the Hard tyre

Unless I missed something Lewis only ran the hard in P1, Valtteri ran mediums. Vice versa in P2. Very hard to compare, different track conditions.

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - Jody Barton - 16-08-2020

(16-08-2020, 11:06 AM)morini Wrote:  
(16-08-2020, 09:45 AM)Jody Barton Wrote:  Another thing to note was that Lewis was able to lap within a tenth of his team mate on the Hard tyre

Unless I missed something Lewis only ran the hard in P1, Valtteri ran mediums. Vice versa in P2. Very hard to compare, different track conditions.

You might be right Morini, I was watching on a small tablet at the beach, and had the F1 App data stream up. It logged Lewis as being on the Hards I thought, but it wouldn't be the first time they've been wrong. Temps look like they're down on Friday as well. If Mercedes can look after their tyres though I fully expect a Mercedes win. The killer in Spain is S2 for the fronts and S3 for the rears, Lewis' car looked very steady through both sectors no slipping or sliding, whereas Bottas' car was more on edge, I guess we'll soon see.

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - morini - 16-08-2020

(16-08-2020, 11:53 AM)Jody Barton Wrote:  You might be right Morini

I wouldn't bet my house on it! Just that I noticed in P1 VB ran soft -> medium where LH ran soft -> hard. I assume they would have reversed that for second session as none of the teams tend to run three compounds in a P session. They don't have enough allocation to do that.

I could easily be wrong though. It has been known! Laughing

RE: 2020 Spanish GP - morini - 16-08-2020

I wouldn't want to buy that Renault Kaptur thing Lando and Carlos are wrecking. No amount of valeting is going to get rid of the stink of sour milk.