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RE: 2019 Italian GP - pennywise - 08-09-2019

Looks like a dry race.....bugger

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RE: 2019 Italian GP - NeilP - 08-09-2019

Damn ....Was looking for the weather to spice it up a little!

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RE: 2019 Italian GP - morini - 08-09-2019

(08-09-2019, 01:22 PM)pennywise Wrote:  Looks like a dry race.....bugger

Yep, unfortunately not a sniff of moisture yet. But you never know, there is cloud around.

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RE: 2019 Italian GP - Jody Barton - 08-09-2019

Apparently there is rain in the area, but not sure it's going to find the track. Still, should be fun to see if Lewis can get past CLC, and more importantly how they shape each other up in wheel to wheel combat. Also looking forward to seeing if Renault can cling on, and how far up the grid Max can get.

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PS currently in chat. I see the pre-show just hasn't mentioned Send qualifying lap.

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RE: 2019 Italian GP - pennywise - 08-09-2019

(08-09-2019, 01:26 PM)morini Wrote:  

(08-09-2019, 01:22 PM)pennywise Wrote:  Looks like a dry race.....bugger

Yep, unfortunately not a sniff of moisture yet. But you never know, there is cloud around.

Yea earlier in the morn it looked like it was going to be wet.......still time ...fingers crossed

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RE: 2019 Italian GP - PapaofGags - 08-09-2019

Enjoy lads, be back after the race.

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RE: 2019 Italian GP - Monster Hesh - 08-09-2019

Excellent, well done Charlie. Nine years Tifo have waited, podium is going to be nuts.

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RE: 2019 Italian GP - morini - 08-09-2019

Race chat transcript (pt 1)


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(13:45:38) Jody_Barton: So we all going to have a chat about the race? If it's dry I think it's probably advantage Ferrari.
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(13:50:53) pennywise: I think it lcl's to lose.....but I think Hamilton will be all over him on the first lap and could pass him
(13:51:01) morini: @Jody, sebs lap was mentioned on pre-show. Brundle talking to conolly on the grid said he was not all 4 wheels off track. Bollocks if you ask me.
(13:52:25) morini: And for what it's worth, I think Hamilton might have an early pop but if it does nt come off I expect him to be in WDC mode. He doesn't need to win TBH.
(13:54:33) morini: Bottas is my dark horse for the win. He was really on it yesterday.
(13:54:42) pennywise: I thought he was off track as well but they decided he just touched on the outside rim....new rules for red cars in Italy
(13:54:54) morini: Heheh
(13:55:46) pennywise: Yea bottas was flying....don't think he has enough to pass ham
(13:56:52) morini: If he gets in front at the start I reckon he has the speed to win it though. He's shown plenty of times he can win from the front. If it's an on track battle then no, he hasn't got the ingredients
(13:57:02) pennywise: Excited to see Verstappen come through the field
(13:57:13) morini: Yep, that should be fun
(13:57:40) pennywise: The first lap is key here...always incidents
(13:57:56) morini: Yeah, massive run to T1.
(13:57:58) Jody_Barton: Well... Seb's lap still isn't on the App and they've not shown it pre-show. He was off, clearly off
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(13:58:33) NeilP: Good morning (afernoon) everyone
(13:58:35) morini: I agree Jody, but Gary Conolly insists he wasn't. Like I an said, they bottled it.
(13:59:03) morini: Georgous George is starting 14th with all the reshuffling
(13:59:03) NeilP: So who is going to take off who in teh first chicane
(13:59:18) Jody_Barton: I think Lewis will be in WDC mode, but if he gets a sniff, well, Lewis is Lewis and he'll apply the pressure and see if young Charlie boy cracks.
(13:59:58) morini: VB is talking his chances up. I'll punt him for the win today.
(14:00:22) morini: Lando looks a right tit in that hat!
(14:00:32) morini: Like a bloody flowerpot man
(14:01:41) Antilochos:
(14:01:45) Jody_Barton: As to who will take who off? If Lewis and Hamilton get the flying starts they have do far we might see contact between Silver and red, also think Sainz gets good starts and he might cause the Renault boys some problems. We'll see
(14:02:00) Jody_Barton: Lewis and Bottas...
(14:02:04) Jody_Barton: D'oh
(14:02:08) Antilochos: So, 10 silly minutes from now...
(14:02:10) NeilP: lol
(14:02:18) Jody_Barton: I'm going over
(14:02:25) Jody_Barton: FFS
(14:02:26) Antilochos: Still don't understand those extra 10 minutes.
(14:02:35) Jody_Barton: I'm hung over
(14:02:48) morini: Good lad!
(14:02:52) Antilochos: I wish I was, but not much brain left
(14:03:11) Jody_Barton: The 10 mins is for yankie TV
(14:03:13) morini: I recommend hair of the dog
(14:03:30) NeilP: I am enjoying my cream cheese bagel and coffee, I knew I could find something good about teh USA
(14:03:40) Jody_Barton: They start the show on the hour, so zero chance of missing it
(14:04:31) Antilochos: Christ, if you can't make it in time for 15.00, you probably mess up 10 minutes later because you take those minutes for granted.
(14:04:41) Jody_Barton: By it I mean the start of the race
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(14:04:56) Antilochos: Okay
(14:05:28) NeilP: The problem is Anti lots of TV programs start on the hour so they could miss the start that is why it was done
(14:05:52) Jody_Barton: It's all about scheduling anti and yankie TV works on 30 Mon slots on the hour and the half hour
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(14:06:11) Jody_Barton: What NeilP said
(14:06:20) NeilP: Pick your winner then boys before It starts I am going with LeClerc
(14:06:29) morini: Bottas
(14:06:30) Jody_Barton: Hamilton
(14:07:06) pennywise: I'm with Hamilton as well
(14:07:14) Jody_Barton: I think the F1 app is like 2 days behind
(14:07:41) Antilochos: Mine is working fine I must say
(14:07:49) NeilP: The F1 App seems to be a disappointment to many
(14:07:50) Jody_Barton: I'll let you know when I go lights out
(14:07:50) Antilochos: I really like it.
(14:08:00) Antilochos: I will as well
(14:08:05) NeilP: I think I am behind too Jody
(14:08:07) morini: I'm watching the Sky feed so will respect the delay
(14:08:11) Jody_Barton: I'm not a fan anti
(14:08:16) Antilochos: We are all behind Morini
(14:08:27) Jody_Barton: The MotoGP app is so much better
(14:08:32) NeilP: some of us with Knives!!!
(14:08:55) Antilochos: I like that you can choose car view when you want and wich car you want.
(14:09:01) morini: I imagine Ian is watching the sky feed as well.
(14:09:13) pennywise: The app is slower than the Williams
(14:09:22) Antilochos:
(14:09:34) NeilP: Does the F1 app run on a PC or just Android and Iphone?
(14:09:43) Antilochos: Poor Williams, really hope they find their way back next year.
(14:09:46) morini: George starting 14th. He might get a podium!
(14:09:51) Antilochos: I am watching on pc
(14:09:54) Jody_Barton: I like that too Anti, it's got lots more stable, but it does buffer too much
(14:10:09) pennywise: I'm on sky
(14:10:11) Jody_Barton: PC, Android, iPhone
(14:10:15) morini: Here we go then, formation lap started
(14:10:21) Antilochos: It does buffer, but that probably is to create stability.
(14:10:42) Jody_Barton: Has an issue with Linux though for some reason
(14:10:55) Antilochos: Formation lap just started here
(14:11:13) Antilochos: Saying it now because at start I will be to busy...
(14:11:20) morini: You aaren't *that* far behind then anti
(14:11:41) Jody_Barton: Yeah formation lap going
(14:12:01) Antilochos: Alonso is really trying to get back in F1...
(14:12:27) Jody_Barton: He is, rumours are he's pushing for the RBR drive
(14:12:40) Antilochos: I don't see it happening. Red Bull will never take him
(14:12:47) Jody_Barton: Nope
(14:12:49) morini: Max would murder him.
(14:12:52) Antilochos: He is to hard to handle for a team.
(14:12:54) Jody_Barton: Honda as well
(14:13:03) Antilochos: O, I forgot Honda
(14:13:16) Jody_Barton: Seb playing deliberate silly buggers
(14:13:27) Jody_Barton: Holding way back
(14:14:21) morini: Wow, CLC has early pace
(14:14:47) Jody_Barton: He'll have the extra engine mode for the start of the race
(14:15:03) Antilochos: Clean start, except for Verstappen.
(14:15:24) Antilochos: He had such a good run untill last race...
(14:16:19) morini: VB looks the faster merc early doors
(14:16:21) Antilochos: Stroll is doing pretty well.
(14:17:08) morini: Go Albon! Cracking move
(14:17:09) NeilP: Going to be a big fight all through the field today methinks
(14:17:28) morini: But it all turns to shit.
(14:17:57) Antilochos: Bad race start for Red Bull
(14:19:21) Antilochos: Verstappen is very far behind. They think he can make it on one set of tyres? I don't think so.
(14:19:44) Jody_Barton: No way will he make it on one set of tyres
(14:19:55) morini: No, especially as hes doing fastest laps
(14:19:57) Jody_Barton: Nose to tail so far
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(14:20:24) morini: Bottas definately being held up by Lewis at the moment.
(14:21:17) Antilochos: Seems Mercedes strategy if I listen to radio on Bottas car.
(14:21:27) NeilP: Renault actually holding on fairly well all things considered
(14:21:37) Jody_Barton: You think Morini? I think it's just line astern for now
(14:21:52) morini: Vettel, FFS
(14:22:03) morini: Bloody chaos
(14:22:13) Antilochos: Vettel, really?
(14:22:31) morini: Yeah, sorry Anti. You'll see in a minute
(14:22:55) Antilochos: No, I saw it on onboard view of Vettel.
(14:23:31) Antilochos: Poor Stroll, he was doing well.
(14:23:35) morini: He's going to get a penalty as well. Should be disqaulifies ofr that!
(14:23:45) Jody_Barton: Penalty
(14:24:03) Jody_Barton: Time to retire
(14:24:05) morini: Deffo Jody
(14:24:13) Jody_Barton: Bring back Alonso
(14:24:32) NeilP: Drive through penalty for sure absolutely horrific, what is it with Vettel. Its time for him to go
(14:24:43) morini: I'm getting the sense Ham is biding his time. He's a bit anonymous at the moment
(14:24:59) morini: Yeah, I agree. CLC has ratlled him
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(14:25:39) NeilP: I wonder if Mercedes will undercut Leclerc I think that is probably the best chnace but not too early
(14:25:54) Jody_Barton: Lewis is not in a high engine mode
(14:26:21) Jody_Barton: No, let CLC run out of tyres, which he will
(14:26:26) morini: Renault boys looking like a really strong result
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(14:26:50) Jody_Barton: Yeah, I said Ricciardo was a cheeky bet for a podium
(14:27:55) morini: Lewis closing now
(14:28:00) Antilochos: Saintz can give it a go fighting Renault later in the race.
(14:29:15) Jody_Barton: Maybe anti, the McLaren is kinda on its tyres
(14:29:30) Jody_Barton: KINDER
(14:29:39) Jody_Barton: bloody predictive text
(14:29:59) morini: heh
(14:30:14) morini: 10 second stop / go.
(14:30:17) morini: For Vettel
(14:30:26) NeilP: Giovinazzi quietly having a very good race
(14:30:28) Jody_Barton: Yeah, that's fair
(14:30:39) Jody_Barton: I rate Giovinazzi
(14:30:39) Antilochos: Looking on the on board view of Verstappen, it is just silly how much faster the Red Bull is compared to the Williams.
(14:30:48) NeilP: That is teh max penalty and rightly so
(14:31:03) Jody_Barton: Never a top driver, but he's capable of a solid career
(14:31:08) morini: Charles doing really well here, fair play
(14:31:25) Jody_Barton: Yeah he is, driving well
(14:31:51) Jody_Barton: Retire that Ferrari
(14:32:03) NeilP: Retire that driver
(14:32:10) morini: Vettels been lapped now
(14:32:19) morini: He's done his stop / go
(14:32:20) Jody_Barton: No point putting mileage on the engine
(14:32:49) Jody_Barton: Plan B, that's normally 2 stops for Ferrari right?
(14:32:52) morini: He should still get points
(14:33:04) morini: If he can go to the end on hards
(14:33:36) morini: I thought this one was a slam dunk 1 stpooer TBH
(14:33:56) Jody_Barton: Me too Morini
(14:34:09) Jody_Barton: But plan B is normally 2 stops
(14:34:49) morini: If I was ferrari I'd leave CLC out as long as possible. He's managing the gap fine
(14:35:25) Jody_Barton: Yeah me too Morini
(14:36:06) NeilP: anyone know the undercut time advantage?
(14:36:08) Jody_Barton: Depends how those tyres hang on because if they start to go off the Mercs will get him on the under cut
(14:36:13) pennywise: But if Merc pit bottas he'll get the undercut
(14:36:36) morini: Merc are being very naughty with the pit stop games. That is not allowed
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(14:37:59) Jody_Barton: Yeah, they need to stop them doing that
(14:38:23) Jody_Barton: CLC been told to put the hammer down
(14:39:14) NeilP: I think Mercedes will quietly be quite happy with the Spa and Monza races they managed to hang on very well which bodes well for the rest of the season
(14:39:16) pennywise: More penalties than the world cup
(14:39:19) morini: He's got the pace Jody. I was expecting Merc to be faster, but they aren't. Lets see what they're like on Mediums
(14:39:42) Jody_Barton: It's following in the dirty air Morini
(14:40:25) Jody_Barton: I think Ferrari should have this comfortably
(14:40:26) morini: Hamilton thinks the overcut won't work as he hasn't enough rears
(14:40:58) morini: In fact, Ham pits
(14:41:01) Jody_Barton: I think he's right
(14:41:33) Antilochos: I agree
(14:41:34) morini: Will mediums do 33 laps?
(14:41:44) Jody_Barton: Yeah should do
(14:41:49) pennywise: He's pushing hard
(14:41:55) morini: CLC in now. This will be tight!
(14:42:05) morini: Onto hards too!
(14:42:22) morini: CLC keeps the lead!
(14:42:45) Jody_Barton: Race over
(14:42:55) morini: Yep. CLC wins from here
(14:44:38) morini: What kind of lap times is Bottas doing. CLC and hamilton ticked up behind the renaults
(14:45:03) morini: Great move Charles!
(14:45:19) morini: gREAT RACING
(14:45:52) morini: hARSH BUT FAIR clc
(14:45:57) Antilochos: Good racing from Hamilton
(14:46:12) Antilochos: Did not see that.
(14:46:16) morini: Lewis moaning about not being left space
(14:46:21) pennywise: No cars width there
(14:46:44) morini: Black and white flag!! Waht the fuck??
(14:46:45) Antilochos: I don't like Leclerc but that was fair racing.
(14:46:55) Antilochos: I don't like Hamilton either...
(14:47:02) pennywise: Ohhhhh a flag.....feck off
(14:47:19) Antilochos: That flag is just silly.
(14:47:40) pennywise: Pointless
(14:47:40) morini: Lewis is going to wreck his tyres here
(14:47:56) Jody_Barton: No onboard that was naughty
(14:48:56) Antilochos: Could Bottas be lucky now? Could he push enough?
(14:49:02) morini: Bottas ain't doing fast enough laps
(14:49:13) Jody_Barton: Nah not working out for Bottas at all
(14:49:28) NeilP: He will be on fresh tyres though at teh end

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RE: 2019 Italian GP - morini - 08-09-2019

Race chat transcript (pt 2)

(14:49:38) Jody_Barton: Too far behind
(14:50:19) pennywise: 2 horse race now
(14:50:35) morini: I reckon Lewis will setlle for second now. It's too risky as CLC is prepared to not leave room
(14:50:47) Jody_Barton: Yeah two horse race
(14:50:53) pennywise: Advantage Ferrari
(14:51:00) Antilochos: I would not count Hamilton out yet. He is a racer after all.
(14:51:12) morini: I'm really impressed with LeClerc, he's so cool under pressure
(14:51:18) NeilP: Great drive by Renault
(14:51:44) Jody_Barton: Yeah great drive by CLC and Ricciardo
(14:51:56) Jody_Barton: Are Merc sacrificing Bottas?
(14:51:59) morini: Ferrari just too quick down the straights
(14:52:03) pennywise: Leclerc was a bit naughty though....
(14:52:40) morini: VB no all that far behind with 7 lap fresher tyres. I reckon he's still in this
(14:53:08) Jody_Barton: Yeah, maybe
(14:53:34) Antilochos: O no, Saintz!
(14:53:39) pennywise: Safety car
(14:53:41) Jody_Barton: I think they were thinking maybe a SC might play into Bottas' hands
(14:53:43) morini: VSC
(14:53:55) pennywise: Virtual
(14:54:00) NeilP: Geez!!!!!!!
(14:54:09) NeilP: MClaren terrible mistake
(14:54:15) Jody_Barton: Oh if only they'd waited!!!
(14:54:18) morini: Might be an opprtunity f the hards cool down
(14:54:26) Antilochos: I think my whole fantasy team has crashes cq penalty cq other crap...
(14:55:01) pennywise: Hamilton still increases Championship lead if it stays like this
(14:55:05) morini: Vettel could play a rear guner role for Charles here
(14:56:14) pennywise: He will be blue flagged
(14:56:15) Jody_Barton: We'll see
(14:57:29) morini: Bottas is def in this.
(14:58:13) Jody_Barton: Yes he is
(14:59:15) morini: For me he's looked like the faster merc all race
(14:59:30) Jody_Barton: He'll be able to absolutely thrash those mediums
(15:00:16) morini: I reckon Lewis will run out of tyres in this dirty air
(15:00:29) Jody_Barton: Me too
(15:00:42) Antilochos: But Bottas is fast, but not a racer.
(15:01:32) morini: The Ferrari is just too quick. It is mighty down the straight.
(15:01:37) Jody_Barton: I want CLC to win
(15:01:50) morini: Yeah, me too. He's driving great
(15:01:56) Jody_Barton: Yeah, way too quick in a straight line
(15:02:07) pennywise: Ferrari rapid on the straight...No chance for Hamilton
(15:02:13) Antilochos: Vettel fighting Williams...
(15:02:19) NeilP: That Ferrari is mighty in a straight line
(15:02:50) Antilochos: Mag-Nor-Ver is nice battle watching for now.
(15:02:58) NeilP: The only was he will pass is if CLC makes a mistake
(15:03:11) Jody_Barton: Yeah agreed
(15:04:07) morini: Nooooo
(15:04:17) Jody_Barton: What?
(15:05:12) pennywise: He has got to give that place up
(15:05:16) morini: While the two at the front are fighting VB is getting ever closer
(15:05:33) Antilochos: I agree Pennywise
(15:05:50) Jody_Barton: Has to give that back
(15:06:02) morini: Not sure myself
(15:06:05) pennywise: Did a bit of Ferrari fall off there
(15:06:13) Jody_Barton: Advantage gained
(15:06:14) morini: VB is bloody flying
(15:06:30) Antilochos: If that was not advantage, I don't know what is.
(15:06:38) Jody_Barton: F2 and F3 they penalised drivers for that
(15:06:42) NeilP: Should be a penalty for sure
(15:06:44) morini: No investigation necessary
(15:06:44) pennywise: Ohhhh surprise
(15:06:47) Jody_Barton: And weaving
(15:06:51) NeilP: BS
(15:06:56) Antilochos: But this is Ferrari in Italy...
(15:07:28) pennywise: Yea he's weaving....why is it being ignored
(15:07:40) Jody_Barton: He gained a lasting advantage
(15:08:05) Antilochos: This is bullshit, clear advantage for Leclerc. How is this possible?
(15:08:21) Jody_Barton: Agreed anti
(15:08:25) morini: Ferrari land
(15:08:38) morini: VB is going to win this. Lewis tyres are shagged
(15:08:45) Jody_Barton: Yeah
(15:08:53) Jody_Barton: VB has a chance
(15:09:09) Antilochos: Hamilton deserves to win, how hard I find myself to say that.
(15:09:12) NeilP: Yes Morini I think he will at least pass Hamilton
(15:09:59) NeilP: That catching is one thing passing is another Hamilton is clearly faster than CLC on a clear lap
(15:10:03) Antilochos: I don't think Bottas will pass Hamilton.
(15:10:38) pennywise: You can't miss a chicane and keep the lead....what's the point of having it
(15:10:38) Jody_Barton: Merc have to let Bottas past to have a crack at CLC
(15:11:03) morini: Yep, I agree. Mercedes will do it as well I reckon
(15:11:48) morini: Lewsis falling off the back of CLC now
(15:12:01) Jody_Barton: Yeah dropping back
(15:12:08) Jody_Barton: Maybe cool things off
(15:12:18) NeilP: I dont think even with fresher tyres Bottas can get leclerc Ferrari is just too fast when it matters
(15:12:35) Antilochos: Penny, they just gave Ferrari the win there at their home race. It is nothing else but bullshit if you ask me.
(15:12:40) morini: Big lock up.BOttas though!
(15:13:29) morini: I reckon Bottas will get Charles with these fresh tyres
(15:13:37) Jody_Barton: Me too
(15:13:41) pennywise: What a Ferrari wanker there
(15:14:02) NeilP: He is not the racer Hamilton is
(15:14:04) Antilochos: First the stupid quali, now this Leclerc moving true chicane. Sour taste in my mounth this weekend.
(15:14:06) pennywise: Hope bottas gets him
(15:14:26) morini: I did say VB has been ob it this weekend.
(15:14:39) Jody_Barton: Drop Lewis onto new Softs
(15:14:55) pennywise: Good shout Mor
(15:15:09) morini: Yeah, Lewis has eaten those medimus
(15:15:21) Antilochos: Renault is having a good day.
(15:15:29) NeilP: Leclerc has been on teh edge all race home advanatge may just have been in play here
(15:15:29) pennywise: Only 10 laps too late for tyres
(15:15:44) NeilP: Hamilton needs to settle for third
(15:15:59) morini: Lewis been on the blower said he has no tyres left
(15:16:02) pennywise: Free stop though
(15:16:12) Jody_Barton: Ooooh, Bottas has his Merc in higher engine mode than Lewis
(15:16:35) pennywise: And extra point for flying
(15:16:40) NeilP: Be interesting to see if Hamilton pits for fastest lap tyres
(15:17:00) morini: I reckon Lewis has turned the motor down now though. His lap times are nowhere
(15:17:19) Jody_Barton: He should he has the gap, and a f there is a SC he's quids in
(15:17:22) NeilP: Hamilton should pit and hope for a safety car!
(15:17:27) NeilP: lol
(15:17:43) morini: Not enough laps to do anything other than fastest lap if he does stop again though
(15:17:50) Jody_Barton: No, Morini, Merc weren't letting him turn the engine up, but they've given it to Bottas
(15:18:10) NeilP: Why is that Jody care to speculate
(15:18:13) morini: Wonder why that is
(15:18:18) morini: ?
(15:18:29) Jody_Barton: Bottas isn't quick enough
(15:18:39) morini: I dunn, he's in DRS now
(15:18:46) morini: I reckon he'll get him
(15:18:48) Jody_Barton: I think it's just saving Hams engine
(15:18:56) morini: Currently could be a 26 pointer too
(15:19:24) Jody_Barton: They need to get Lewis in
(15:19:56) morini: I agree Jody. Give him a FL chance
(15:20:14) morini: Ric is 37 secs behin, nthing to lose
(15:20:21) Jody_Barton: Agreed
(15:20:35) NeilP: There is no way Bottas will pass clc WITHOUT A MISTAKE
(15:20:42) Jody_Barton: CLC is too good for Bottas in that cat
(15:20:46) Jody_Barton: *car
(15:21:01) Jody_Barton: Bottas told to turn the engine down
(15:22:09) morini: Well he's just doen 2 FL's in a row Jody
(15:22:27) pennywise: Pit Lewis now
(15:22:32) Jody_Barton: He hasn't turned the engine down
(15:22:46) NeilP: In all honesty did we not expect this for Spa and Monza, I credit Ferrari for the wins (probably) but it chnages very little in the big picture
(15:22:53) morini: Why don't they pit hamilton for fastest lap? Its an extra point after all
(15:23:13) Jody_Barton: I don't know Morini
(15:23:16) NeilP: Not worth the risk Morini he is so far ahead 1 point is not a big deal
(15:23:39) Jody_Barton: Dumb if you ask me, but as a team they have it with Bottas
(15:23:42) pennywise: At last
(15:23:44) morini: Yu're bwrong neil, he's pitting for softs
(15:24:03) NeilP: surprised Morini
(15:24:14) morini: Bot in DRS now as well
(15:24:29) pennywise: Still 3 to go....not over
(15:24:34) Jody_Barton: Won't make it
(15:25:13) morini: Bottas just hasn't got the race ollies. Way too deep there
(15:25:24) pennywise: Yup..
(15:25:59) Antilochos: Bottas sucks, I never thought high of him.
(15:26:01) Jody_Barton: As I've said to you, he's not a top driver
(15:26:09) morini: No qick lap from Lewis though. WTF is going on there?
(15:26:43) pennywise: Bottas always fecks it up....haddie
(15:26:50) NeilP: If Hamilton could not pass when constantly in DRS I dont know what makes people think Bottas could
(15:26:51) morini: He's been quick this weekend though Jody. And lewis couldn't get passed CLC either in farness
(15:26:58) Jody_Barton: Sorry but I don't rate Bottas at all
(15:26:59) morini: Lewis just bagged the FL
(15:27:38) Jody_Barton: Yeah, but CLC kept the lead by cutting the chicane
(15:27:44) Antilochos: So, they messed up quali and Leclerc came out on top and then they let Leclerc get away with a advantage for cutting of the track. A good driver, but this just don't feel right.
(15:27:57) morini: Last lap. All over. Two point swing to Bottas.
(15:28:10) Antilochos: I think Hamilton should be the winner today.
(15:28:14) pennywise: Bottas is a no 2 driver....that's why Lewis likes him in the team
(15:28:28) NeilP: I dont begrudge him his fortune he has been amazing this year Ferrari have a real top driver Vettel looks second rate to him
(15:28:42) Antilochos: I am out guys. See you around the forum.
(15:28:44) Jody_Barton: Happy CLC wins, but... well... Good for Ferrari. Vettel is done
(15:28:45) morini: Maybe Ian, but I don't reckon Lewis is scared of anyone in all hosesty
(15:29:07) morini: Good win. A bit dirty in places, but there we go :-)
(15:29:15) NeilP: Anti If he got past his tyres may not have made it anyway
(15:29:30) morini: Great renault result
(15:29:46) pennywise: Lec cut and missed a chicane....then weaved and it all went without a penalty.....bollocks
(15:30:07) NeilP: Good race enjoyable
(15:30:24) Jody_Barton: Pennywise, I agree, especially after being given the black and white flag earlier
(15:30:33) NeilP: Mercedes will be happy after the Spa and Monza they were closer than many thought
(15:30:33) morini: Yeah, I was more concerned with not leaving space when Ham was alongside. But we shouldn't gripe. Back to back wins.
(15:30:42) morini: Vettel will retire at the end of the season
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(15:31:03) NeilP: He needs to Morini he has lost it and I am damned if I know whay
(15:31:55) pennywise: After a black and white flag he should have been given a 5 sec penalty
(15:32:00) morini: Hamilton seems really relaxed about the result on the radio.
(15:32:02) morini: Fair play
(15:33:01) NeilP: Hamilton should be happy he has had two great races and not won either but you saw his quality
(15:33:23) NeilP: Who should take Vettels place guys?
(15:33:31) pennywise: Me
(15:33:40) morini: VB must know its all over for him now? 63 points in 7 races. Unlikely
(15:33:41) NeilP: RBR favourites for Singapore?
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(15:33:59) morini: Nah, ercedes will win at singapore
(15:34:26) pennywise: Singapore is not a Merc fav
(15:34:56) morini: But Ham is a speailaist and they have much more downforce with Alisons influence
(15:35:07) morini: specialist
(15:36:10) morini: Singapore is always shit after saturday is over anyway
(15:36:36) pennywise: Yea poor track for close races
(15:37:01) pennywise: I'm off guys...cheers enjoyed the banter
(15:37:05) NeilP: I would hate to be fan of any other team at Monza other than Ferrari thats for sure
(15:37:11) morini: See you Ian
(15:37:19) NeilP: Me too catch up later guys thanks for teh fun

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RE: 2019 Italian GP - pennywise - 08-09-2019

Sorry but for me leclerc should have been given a penalty for cutting the chicane and then weaving all after being  flagged  for not leaving a cars width for Lewis.......Only in Italy rules are bent or ignored for the red cars

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